The article title claims causality. The article body says the researchers didn't claim causality:
The review, conducted by researchers from four UK universities known as the Action on Digital Device Immersive Conditions Team, did not establish causal links between screen use and specific developmental conditions.
SiempreViernes 13 minutes ago [-]
> The article title claims causality.
Maybe they edited the title since you saw it, but currently there's no claims of causation unless you think "can" and "will" are synonyms.
pmarreck 2 hours ago [-]
That's a problem because "using a screen as a babysitter" likely correlates with overworked poorer parents and thus a whole host of other developmental problems
thatfrenchguy 2 hours ago [-]
Even for upper middle class parents, "using a screen as a babysitter" just means you're more stressed and have less hands around. My kiddo has not seen a screen at the age of 2, but that's just because he has two parents at home at 5pm everyday.
pmarreck 2 hours ago [-]
I made the error of wasting my time (ahem... it was fun while it lasted, at least) not having a kid until I turned 49... which meant our parents were too elderly (or dead) to help (my mom had me at 35) in any significant capacity, and the rest of my relatives (as it just so happened) already had plans to move away to FL before he was conceived.
This has resulted in so much stress (especially in the 3's and 4's, because he still doesn't sleep through the night in his own goddamn bed) that I arguably lost a job from it... 50+ year old bodies are simply not well-capable of handling toddlers for the more-than-fulltime-weekly hours that they require
I'm sure there are fringe benefits though but damn
dempedempe 1 hours ago [-]
I don't think child rearing is supposed to be as difficult as modern society makes it.
As you pointed out, you don't have a lot of help in raising your kid. You're expected to do it mostly with your partner (or god forbid alone).
They've done some studies of hunter gather tribes to determine who handled babies the most. Turns out the kids' actual parents only handled the kids for about half the time (I think even a little less)! The term for it is "alloparenting".
Evolution did not prime us for this level of child care. Good luck to you!
rationalist 1 hours ago [-]
Even without going that far back, I imagine it was easier when parents kicked the kids out of the house and told them not to come back until dinner time.
graemep 37 minutes ago [-]
> Even without going that far back, I imagine it was easier when parents kicked the kids out of the house and told them not to come back until dinner time.
Did people ever do that with under-twos? Or under-fives?
The big difference in more recent times was community and extended family help, and at least one parent having more time at home.
jdsnape 3 minutes ago [-]
I don’t have hard evidence, but when I was a kid I enjoyed the children’s book ‘Five children and it’, written ~1900
The children cart their two year old sibling around with them everywhere (sans parents) and it’s totally unremarkable.
amanaplanacanal 25 minutes ago [-]
Evidently there was quite a bit of handwringing in the 1950s that the "nuclear family" was bad for children and would lead to more divorce, since there were no longer grandparents and aunts and uncles around to help with childrearing.
graemep 19 minutes ago [-]
Interesting. If so, they were right.
andai 2 hours ago [-]
And banning screens for the first several decades of your child's life correlates with being a billionaire.
Fire-Dragon-DoL 38 minutes ago [-]
I don't like the screen time generalization either.
What about watching a tv show with a parent explaining? What about trying a videogame with a controller on an actual game console, experiencing remote controlling something in a screen (Spoiler alert: amazing results, I have a video with my daughter shocked at age 2).
Smartphones used as a babysitter with a f2p game is probably garbage time
SilverElfin 1 hours ago [-]
This happens a lot in mainstream science and journalism. Another famous example is the often misquoted study (from McKinsey?) about DEI improving company results. The authors didn’t claim causality, since the most likely explanation is just that already large companies were more likely to adopt policies that discriminate based on race or gender. But virtually all news articles and company policies mistakenly referenced the study as if it had established causality.
sfn42 1 hours ago [-]
The ADDICT, nice
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andrewstuart 33 minutes ago [-]
There’s no reason for kids under 6 to ever look at a screen.
aweb 5 minutes ago [-]
Yeah it seems crazy to me that this is news. Here in France the government officially recommends to avoid screens at all costs for under 3 years omds and as much as possible under 6. There are tons of studies showing it hinders their development.
amanaplanacanal 23 minutes ago [-]
I don't have kids myself, but I understand there is good educational programming on television for small children.
graemep 20 minutes ago [-]
Not in my opinion. Certainly nothing like as good as adult attention or play.
Hizonner 54 minutes ago [-]
"Landmark" review by an advocacy group. Not a good review, either.
Maybe they edited the title since you saw it, but currently there's no claims of causation unless you think "can" and "will" are synonyms.
This has resulted in so much stress (especially in the 3's and 4's, because he still doesn't sleep through the night in his own goddamn bed) that I arguably lost a job from it... 50+ year old bodies are simply not well-capable of handling toddlers for the more-than-fulltime-weekly hours that they require
I'm sure there are fringe benefits though but damn
As you pointed out, you don't have a lot of help in raising your kid. You're expected to do it mostly with your partner (or god forbid alone).
They've done some studies of hunter gather tribes to determine who handled babies the most. Turns out the kids' actual parents only handled the kids for about half the time (I think even a little less)! The term for it is "alloparenting".
Evolution did not prime us for this level of child care. Good luck to you!
Did people ever do that with under-twos? Or under-fives?
The big difference in more recent times was community and extended family help, and at least one parent having more time at home.
The children cart their two year old sibling around with them everywhere (sans parents) and it’s totally unremarkable.
Smartphones used as a babysitter with a f2p game is probably garbage time